Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan refused to testify earlier than the U.S. Home Oversight Committee Thursday morning in regards to the self-styled “audit” he led for the Arizona Senate, selecting as a substitute to spend two hours as a visitor on a right-wing podcast hosted by a fellow election conspiracy theorist who’s being sued for defamation.
“I imply, the present query is what number of instances was I thrown below the bus?” Logan joked in regards to the congressional listening to he skipped to the hosts of Conservative Each day.
As Logan spoke to podcast hosts Joe Oltmann and Max McGuire, Senate “audit” liaison and former Secretary of State Ken Bennett was testifying to the congressional committee to defend the controversial election evaluate. The committee additionally heard from Maricopa County supervisors and election consultants.
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Oltmann gained notoriety for a baseless allegation he beforehand made in opposition to a Dominion Voting Methods government that the corporate’s ballot-counting machines had been rigged to make sure Trump misplaced the election. That government, Eric Coomer, has filed several defamation lawsuits over Oltmann’s unfounded claims that he was a member of “antifa” and conspired to alter election outcomes.
Each Oltmann and Logan additionally appeared in the conspiracy theory film “The Deep Rig” which was riddled with falsehoods in regards to the 2020 election and was directed by a person whose earlier work claimed aliens were behind 9/11.
Logan was closely concerned in efforts to overturn election results in Michigan and he offered info to U.S. senators that they might ostensibly use to reject presidential electors from battleground states that Biden received. And he spread election disinformation on social media within the weeks after the election. In that conspiracy idea movie, which was produced by the primary funder of the “audit,” Logan declared that the Central Intelligence Agency was behind claims that the 2020 election was fair.
‘I can’t let you know if that is fraud’
The 2-hour dialogue, titled “Cyberninja’s (sic) CEO Tells Congress to Fork Off and Joins US As an alternative,” targeted on a variety of matters, together with Logan’s religion, the audit, a faux model of the audit report and calls from right-wing extremists to decertify the election due to what the “audit” concluded.
Logan spoke overtly about witnessing what he referred to as “anomalies” after the 2020 election that he claimed the “mainstream media” was not protecting, saying that that is what received him into “election integrity work.”
“It didn’t make logical sense,” Logan mentioned of the “anomalies” of the 2020 election.
Previous to being employed by the Arizona Senate to conduct the poll evaluate of the Maricopa County election, Arizona Mirror discovered Logan had been an advocate for “Cease the Steal” content material on his now defunct Twitter account, retweeting recognized misinformation peddlers akin to Ron Watkins and Bobby Piton.
Logan has repeatedly refused to reply questions from the Mirror and different journalists about his Twitter account or his advocacy of lies in regards to the election.
However he informed the podcast that, by Nov. 14, 2020, he was assembly with a bunch of individuals to work on “election anomalies” in South Carolina. This confirms earlier reporting by Talking Points Memo through which conspiracy theorist Lin Wooden mentioned Logan was at his property in South Carolina to debate election fraud investigations. Wooden’s group, Battle Again, donated $50,000 to the Arizona “audit” efforts.
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After that, Logan mentioned he didn’t come residence till Christmas Eve and labored on election fraud investigations in Georgia. Logan was additionally concerned within the failed try and show election fraud in Antrim County, Mich., the place he was listed as an skilled witness.
When the dialog turned to the findings that the “audit” made in regards to the Maricopa County election, Logan claimed that there have been over 23,000 “suspicious ballots,” however demurred on the query of whether or not there was any fraud.
“I can’t let you know if that is fraud or if it’s not fraud. What I can let you know is that it’s extremely suspicious,” Logan mentioned of the audit report’s evaluation of mail in ballots.
Maricopa County in its response mentioned they’ve been unable to substantiate any of the claims on the 23,000 mail in ballots Logan deems “suspicious,” including that Cyber Ninjas used a industrial database as a substitute of the USA Postal Service or Nationwide Change of Deal with report to verify an individual’s handle, making Logan’s evaluation unreliable.
A big portion of the dialogue centered on the idea of decertifying the 2020 election, one thing Logan was not eager on.
“Suggesting we must always decertify is like launching a nuke,” Logan mentioned, drawing criticism from the hosts.
Logan: Cyber Ninjas crew member wrote faux draft report
The “audit” report explicitly didn’t conclude there was election fraud, and did little greater than recommend attainable modifications to state legal guidelines governing how elections are performed. However a fraudulent draft model of the report was revealed by Gateway Pundit, a right-wing clearinghouse of conspiracy theories and fabricated tales, that alleged Logan and the opposite auditors discovered fraud and referred to as for the election to be decertified.
Logan mentioned that somebody on his “audit” crew wrote the counterfeit draft report, however didn’t say who it was. Oltmann, the present’s host, admitted that he launched that model of the report on-line.
“Are you prepared for the left or different individuals to make use of the identical burden of proof to make use of it in opposition to you?” Logan mentioned to Oltmann, including that they will need to have “absolute proof” and that they aren’t there but for decertification, one thing legislative attorneys have mentioned shouldn’t be attainable.
Logan pushed for Oltmann and his viewers to attend for Lawyer Normal Mark Brnovich to analyze, and mentioned that the Arizona Senate is within the technique of sending extra info to the AG.
“Let’s pray for the AG, let’s pray that he does what is correct,” Logan mentioned. “Ship him letters, ship him emails, encourage him to do what is correct.”
“The backlash from the American individuals if (Brnovich) doesn’t do the precise factor goes to be a snowball, that I’m unsure rolling down that mountain won’t flip into one thing that none of us need, and that’s some form of kinetic conduct by People saying sufficient is sufficient,” Oltmann mentioned, including that it could end in “tar and feathering.”